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February 23, 2005

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Bruce Small

For what it is worth, I once made a politically incorrect statement on an essay, and it came back with a D- and a suggestion that I needed remedial English.

The same week the head of the department stopped me in the hallway and congratulated me on my exceptionally high score on the English portion of the GRE. He said it was rare to see a score that high. He also said he had heard I had been invited to apply at Harvard.

Retribution for conservative views does occur on campus.

Musing Michael

Stupid things do indeed happen on campus: just as anyplace else. But it's funny how anarcho-conservacons, who are ordinarily quick to pooh-pooh bias claims suddenly forget their alleged principles when they can get some attention by jumping up and down and screaming "anti-conservative bias" a lot.

Some students have no business being in college. Others are too lazy to bother reading the assignment. Others just want to know what to regurgitate to get the best grade. A very few actually think and turn in outstanding work--and my experience is that they get appropriately rewarded for that.

Some years ago, I sat a graduate course in the philosophy of religion. I am a theist. The professor who taught the class, not so much (though he never, ever came out and said so). I argued--rationally, I might add--in favor of my side of the debate in every paper or assignment I ever turned in for his class (one of several I've taken from him). Not only was I not penalized, I consistently scored the highest in the class, and I'm not even a philosophy major (almost all of my fellow students were).

Not-me Michael has it exactly right. If al-Qloushi had bothered to write a decent paper, he'd have gotten the A. But "paper," in college, does not mean "half-baked regurgitation of wingnut talking points gleaned from Faux News, asserted as fact and without evidence adduced in support thereof." Oh, and it generally does help if one answers the question that was actually asked, not the one for which one has a handy-dandy digest of bullet-points and taglines prepared.

Cheryl

One thing about his essay is that it was incredibly short. This was to make up for having missed the mid-term exam??? What kind of class would allow a student to substitute 3 paragraphs for a midterm exam?

Incertus

The more I hear of the professor's side of the story, the more convinced I am that he's giving the more accurate version. The clincher for me was actually the idea that he was willing to go to such lengths to allow the student to pass the class with a decent grade.

There's intense pressure not to fail students these days, or even to give them grades below C. When I taught at Arkansas, you had to practically beg for an F, even in an introductory composition. The Fs I handed out were invariably for cheating or for failing to complete a considerable number of assignments.

al-Qloushi sounds like so many of my college freshmen who either failed or didn't get the grade they thought they deserved--it's never their fault. I'd have been far less polite about it if they'd tried to pillory me in the press over a grade.

d

i'm not a teacher in any sense, but that essay was dumbfounding. whether is was a feeble attempt to mask not having studdied, a misread assignment, or an off-track misunderstanding of the topic, i've been in the unfortunate situation where i have not answered the question posed in an essay. and while in most cases my professors were more lenient than they should have been in retrospect, i never felt entitled to a better grade. i was outright embarassed, thankful when i passed and angry with myself when i did not. as this student should be.

BUT, if the professor did in any way threaten this student (which i am disinclined to believe considering hoopla over a plainly bad essay), then he should be held to task. just not for failing the student.

the exile

I still think the question was loaded, as I argued a long time ago, but the more I hear about the case, the clearer it becomes that the question was asked in a one-sided way because the prof knows from experience that weak community college students can't handle open-ended questions that really do demand original thought and argument. He set up the easiest assignment he could, to do a favor for the student, and he gets Horowitz in return. No good deed goes unpunished.

the exile

By the way, Bruce's story is almost impossible to believe. Never in my life have I run across a department where the Dept. Chair would have any knowledge of a student's GRE score, and if he did he would not likely bring it up in conversation. GRE scores are confidential. How unprofessional can you get? Nor does Harvard "invite people to apply." NOR is there an "english portion" of the GRE. It's "verbal", "math", "analytical." Sure, maybe he meant "verbal" rather than "English," but why would anyone who actually took the exam use a nonstandard term to describe it? How many unlikely assertions can you fit into five lines? What motivates trolls to simply make up stuff to score political points? There's something truly pathological going on here, and I'm not talking about Bruce in particular, I'm talking about the Rush and Hannity crowd in general. It's the kind of hatred of educated people that fueled the violence of Mao's Cultural Revolution.

Musing Michael

Exile: At least as far as knowing the scores go, it's not entirely implausible. My research director (I'm working on my third M.A., in history) also happens to be serving as the director of graduate studies in the department. As such, she has access to my application files, which of course include a copy of my GRE scores. At least in our department, applicants' files are passed around to members of the faculty in the same area as the prospective student. So if the chair in question had served as DGS at some time, s/he might have gotten to see the student's scores and possibly remembered them. Same if s/he'd been on the admissions committee or was asked to evaluate the candidate's potential.

flugel

Someone named Denis Hiller has set up Ahmad. This whole thing began with "press releases" that all had this Hiller name attached to it. Check out this URL:

http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org/archive/2005/February2005/FoothillAhmadcomptohitler021005.htm

It's all fake. Hiller sets himself up as some kind of advisor to the Foothill Republican Club, but that is false. The FH Repub. Club never endorsed any press releases. Can somebody do some research on this guy?

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