Waterboarding

I didn't really know what "waterboarding" (an "interrogation" technique that, the NYTimes recently revealed the Department of Justice has approved and that US has used recently) involved until it was discussed on CNN Friday.  Because usually it's glossed, without much detail, as something like this:

One such technique, a participant recalls, was "waterboarding" (making a suspect think he might drown).

From a Newsweek article.

You have to look a little harder to find a better definition.  Wikipedia says

In the second form of waterboarding a victim is strapped to a board and lowered into a vat of water until he or she believes that drowning is imminent. The subject is then removed from the water and revived. If necessary the process is repeated. The torture is designed to be psychological more than physical, as the victim is led to believe that he or she is being executed. This reinforces the torturer's control and makes the victim experience mortal fear.

A similar torture was applied to supposed witches. In a trial by ordeal called "dunking," they were immersed into a vat of water or pond, and taken out after some time, when the victim had the ability to confess. If she confessed, she was killed. If she did not confess, she was submerged again. This process usually was repeated until the victim drowned or gave up and let herself be executed in another way (hanging or, rarely, burning).

One is given pause by the idea that we could be engaging in the same tactics that were used in the Northeast by Puritans in the 17th century. 

There's also another form of waterboarding, called "water cure"

Water cure is a form of interrogation. In one variation, [sic] of which the subject is tied or held down in a chair and with his face covered with a cloth, water is poured over his face. The subject feels like he is drowning and this is done to encourage the subject to talk. Another variation is to pour water down the throat of the subject being careful not to drown the subject but to make the subject feel the sensation of drowning.

Here is a helpful Rennaissance woodcut:

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Mark Danner, who wrote Torture and Truth: America Abu Ghraib and the War on Terror helpfully tells us that we don't know which version of waterboarding your taxpayer dollars are paying for.  But he does include some accounts of waterboarding victims, which I'll reprint for your amusement.  One from French Algeria in 1958:

I was taken off the bar [on which he had been hung and subjected to electric torture] and my guards started their football again [beating and kicking him], perhaps for a quarter hour. Then they led me, still naked and blindfolded, into a neighboring room on the same floor. I heard: "We'll have to kill him, the bastard."

Then they laid me on a bench, flat on my stomach, head extending into the air, and tied my arms against my body with cords. Again the same question, which I refused to answer. By tilting the bench very slowly, they dipped my head into a basin filled with stinking liquid—dirty water and urine, probably. I was aware of the gurgling liquid reaching my mouth, then of a dull rumbling in my ears and a tingling sensation in my nose.

"You asked for a drink—take all you want."

The first time I did drink, trying to appease an insupportable thirst. I wanted to vomit immediately.

"He's puking, the bastard."

And my head was pushed back into the basin....

From time to time one of them would sit on my back and bear down on my thighs. I could hear the water I threw up fall back into the basin. Then the torture would continue.

And then one from a victim in the Argentinian "Dirty War":

She was immediately blindfolded. Her first torture session was in a basement full of soldiers, where she was stripped naked, tied, and beaten. "They slapped my face, pinched my breasts. 'You have to talk, this is your last opportunity, and this is your salvation.' And then they put me on a table. And I thought, 'Well, if they are going to kill me, I hope they kill me pretty soon.' They pushed my head underwater, so I could not breathe. They take you out, ask you things, they put you in, they take you out—so you cannot breathe all the time. 'Who did you receive this from? Who do you know?' Who can control anything when you cannot breathe? They pull you out, you try to grab for air, so they put you back in so you swallow water, and it is winter and you are very cold and very scared and they do that for a long time. Even if you are a good swimmer you cannot stand it anymore...."

Danner concludes

Water-boarding, as those Americans who used the method on Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and other "high value detainees" surely know, is very effective in inducing fear; as a Uruguayan army interrogator put it, "There is something more terrifying than pain, and that is the inability to breathe." It is most effective, as these examples show, when combined with other techniques, including stress positions, sensory and sleep deprivation, and direct "physical coercion," or beatings.

Now, as I said, we don't know exactly what kind of waterboarding is being used by Americans, and we don't know how widespead it is, though we do know that some form of it was used on Khalid Shaikd Mohammed (and the NYTimes reported on it last May; see Danner for details).  But the problem is not just that we've used this technique before; it's that we can use it whenever we feel like it, as Marty Lederman says:

The legal theory that supports the waterboarding of KSM is not limited to top Al Qaeda leaders. It would permit the inhumane treatment outside U.S. jurisdiction of any detainee not protected by the Geneva Conventions -- a category that is, in this Administration's view, remarkably broad, encompassing virtually anyone who is suspected of aiding Al Qaeda in any way. The limitation to "top" Al Qaeda leaders, if it exists, is a function of policy, not of legal constraint (unless I'm missing something).

And that really gets to the heart of the matter.  The issue is not, as the conservacons likes to pretend it is, some sort of fictitious, academic reductio ad absurdum scenario in which Osama has the code to disarm the nuclear bomb that's about to go off in Times Square, and we have him in custody, and our moral duty to the people in Manhattan conflicts with our duty to oppose torture, etc.  Such a scenario has as little to do with torture as the issue of whether you'd shoot a guy threatening your mom has with to do with murder or whether you'd steal a loaf of bread to feed your children has to do with larceny. The issue is one of normativity.  The Bush admin doesn't acknowledge the relevance of the Geneva Conventions, and if they can waterboard one guy, they waterboard a different guy, despite Alberto Gonzales' assurances that

[t]his president has said we're not going to engage in torture under any circumstances

Even though we have engaged in torture under certain circumstances, and the Bush administration refuses to hold the CIA to the same standards that it holds the military to. 

Don't kid yourself.  It's not a matter of "what we might have to do one day;" it's a matter of what we do or are allowed to do, what we consider to be legal and proper and acceptable in our society as it responds to threats to national security.  Remember, Charles Graner, just sentenced to 10 years in jail, says that he was ordered to abuse prisoners at Abu Ghraib.  At least his claim deserves to be taken seriously.

Before we go any further, take a minute or two to sit there and think about waterboarding.  Imagine that you are stripped naked by a bunch of people, probably in not the most sanitary of conditions.  They have guns, and speak a language you don't know.  And that you are strapped to a board so you can't move.  And then you are either submerged in water until you pass out or nearly pass out (think 1, 2, 3 minutes), or water is poured down your throat.  In either case, you lack control of your breathing and you think you are drowning.  The water probably isn't the cleanest of water.  When you are coherent enough to listen to know what's going on, you are asked questions.  And when you don't respond, they do it to you again.  Repeat a few times. 

Now, if you can sit there, and really imagine what that's like to have happen to you, and you still think that the people we're fighting in Iraq, who you probably don't really know much about, deserve to have that happen to them; and if you aren't concerned about the fact that such a practice violates US and international law; and if you aren't concerned about what will happen to American troops when they're capture as a result; and if doesn't give you a queasy feeling at the pit of your stomach -- fine.  You've passed the test.  You can support torture all you want, and though I may think you're morally reprehensible, I at least have to admit that you have thought through the issue. 

But please, don't be like your right-wing collegues, living in a fantasy world of partisan self-deception.  Don't try to minimize the the prisoner abuse like your friend Denis Boyles of National Review; the worst he'll say is, sacastically, "you should not make terrorists stay up late listening to Ratt and you should not make Iraqi convicts get naked and then laugh at them."  Or Rich Lowry, who skirts the whole issue with the simple word "pressure."  Or Jonah Goldberg, who says "[b]eing forced to sit in a cramped area until you give up valuable intelligence is rough, but this ain’t beanbag."  Or Heather MacDonald, who says "I, for one, do not object to keeping a terrorist up past his bedtime to question him, and I certainly don’t regard it as torture."  Or your favorite, Rush Limbaugh, who either cluelessly or maliciously says "And we hear that the most humiliating thing you can do is make one Arab male disrobe in front of another. Sounds to me like it's pretty thoughtful," or compares it to a "fraternity hazing."

Confront the issue.  Think about it.  Imagine it.  And don't try to avoid the issue by rationalizing -- "but they don't accept the Geneva Conventions either," "they're all terrorists," "we only use torture when we need to."  Make it personalized; make it an emotional reality for yourself.  Don't tell me that I'm a traitor; deal with yourself.  Say affirmatively, "I support the torture of Iraqi and GITMO detainees."  Commit yourself to that idea.  If you can do so, you may be a monster, but at least you're not a monstrous self-deceiving coward like your friends on the right.

-- Michael

Comments

[incertus]

I'm reminded of one of George Orwell's essays about his time spent in Burma as a military officer, where he came to the realization that in order to administer an empire, the first step has to be the dehumanization of the people you are ruling over. That's essentially what happens here--you notice that those who support torture never refer to the Iraqis or al-Qaeda members as anything but enemies or terrorists, as though they were some amorphous blob that spits out replicants who are out to destroy us. Why? Because if they acknowledge that these are humans, then they are forced by their consciences to acknowledge that they might have grievances, and that our treatment of them is evil.

Only a person with a complete lack of human empathy would see torture of another human as acceptable, so they justify their opinions by acting as though these people are not human. And unfortunately, they've been able to dehumanize them to enough of the American population that what outrage that exists is muted and limited.

[Cheryl]

Personally I think it is a very good thing that our current president is a psychopath.

As much as I hate to admit it, as much as I feel that I am a liberal leftist scumbag and horrified by human rights violations, as much as I want the world to be a comfortable happy place for everyone, I have to admit that the only thing standing between me and a steamroller of irresistible outside pressure fueled by unrestrained human breeding that threatens to take away my access to cheap energy is the nutcase sitting in the white house and all his perverted friends who will stop at absolutely nothing to protect my access to cheap energy.

Of course, it would have been far better to have transitioned to a sustainable alternative energy economic system decades ago and save the oil for manufacturing purposes, but given our current choices, going down on top of the falling wave of humanity is certainly better than being crushed under it. If we had a goody-two-shoes Republican lite softy like Kerry in power we could have found ourselves shut out of the energy game entirely. Kerry is no Clinton, nor is he a progressive and he certainly does not rock the boat. He has neither the vision to move us to a sustainable economy nor the lack of morals necessary to maintain the status quo. We could go down under him, which is the principle reason I opposed his nomination. Similar reasoning to the Republican attacks on him but a different flavor.

The question is, can we still find the means of transitioning the economy to a sustainable basis while laboring under a dictatorship? Or is this the end game? Did we just buy ourselves a decade rather than charting a course through the indefinite future?

[drm]

I will admit the American Gov't engages in "waterboarding" way more times then you think. Ask any Navy SEAL, or Amry Ranger, or special ops guy and they will all say they have been subjected to waterboarding as part of their training. So it appears that the torture is part of our governments training of our most elite forces. So now, this is an interesting dilema. We torture our elite forces in their training but that is acceptable, but using it as an interogation technique is wrong. Torture is fine in one case but not in another.

[DavidByron]

Wow, you really are a moron aren't you?

C'mon. No one's that dumb are they? You're just pretending to not be able to tell the difference between a voluntary and a non-voluntary act. What's the deal with rape anyway? people have sex all the time, right? What's the deal with shoplifting? People take stuff out of shops all the time don't they? What's the deal with kidnapping? It's no different from giving someone a lift.

Please tell me you're just yanking Cheryl's chain here. If not I have to ask who is doing the typing for you. Does someone put the food in your mouth? Does someone hold your thing when you need to take a whiz?

C'mon, nobody's this stupid.

[Sporty]

Thanks, DavidByron! You want to take a crack at Cheryl now?

The whole Rush Limbaugh 'we have to be on top of the falling wave of humanity' image is just hanging in the air waiting for you to hit it out of the park!

Oh, unless hitting a metaphorical baseball with a metaphorical bat is as bad as hitting a detainee! They're the same thing, right?

[Sporty]

Thanks, DavidByron! You want to take a crack at Cheryl now?

The whole Rush Limbaugh 'we have to be on top of the falling wave of humanity' image is just hanging in the air waiting for you to hit it out of the park!

Oh, unless hitting a metaphorical baseball with a metaphorical bat is as bad as hitting a detainee! They're the same thing, right?

[Oliver]

Water boarding used in Vietnam by US troops in interrogation of Vietcong men and women was widely reported by Oriana Fallaci in her book "Niente e così sia" in early '70s...
Now the story happens again with the same troops.
;-)

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